Burgerdaddy – Los Angeles – December 15, 2019

Burger Crew meeting called to order on Saturday, December 15, 2019

Members in attendance: Angela, Trevor, Wayne, DK, and Innie
Guest member: Isa

I. Ordering

Continuing our pop up trend, Burgerdaddy setup a tent behind Standing Butchery. True to most popups the menu was very simple. You can order either the “single” or the “double.” The owner recommended to get two “singles” if we were hungry instead of getting one “double.” Spoiler alert, she was wrong. Get the double. Always double (except at Cassel’s).

Burgerdaddy – Single

II. The burgers

Along with the pop up trend, Burgerdaddy is another place that smashes their patties. The burger patty came pre smashed super thin before reaching the grill. We found this highly unorthodox. The beef was made from all sorts of grass fed cuts from the butchery (i.e. chuck, steak cuts, other typical meats). With that said, the patty was super juicy and had an amazing sear and was seasoned “full salt bae” status according to Wayne. Great execution.

Burgerdaddy – preformed flat patties on the grill

Cheese was super nice and melty.  The double had two slices of cheese. The consensus was that it wasn’t too much cheese.  Some members felt like there was too much mustard and pickles were a “little heavy” but good. In my book, they get extra points for using mustard in the first place. Great job Burgerdaddy!

After being somewhat disappointed with the meat volume in the single, we went back and ordered the double burger. It was MUCH juicier and meatier.  I may have had the first single off the grill that was a smidge overcooked with a weird crust but I still enjoyed it

Chopped onions were good because they weren’t too strong.  Maybe they’re soaked to mellow them out.

If you haven’t noticed, this burger seems to be another McDonald’s style clone. However, it didn’t taste anything like a McDonald’s burger.  The mouthfeel of the burger is VERY different and tasted excellent.

Innie felt it had a backyard burger vibe.  Angela astutely observed that “well because it was in the… back… yard.”

Wayne’s second burger was a little too salty.  Wayne had two doubles.  A different person made the second burger maybe that was it. So be possibly prepared for inconsistent experiences based on who’s making your food.

Burgerdaddy assembly station

III. The fries/sides

FREE CHIPS but probably only today.  They could have sold them.

NO FRIES

Image result for no fries

IV. Miscellaneous

Pop up tent in the back.  Parking in laBrea is tough.  Started the pop up about 8 months ago.  No place to sit.  Very quick, very simple, super friendly.  Pay cash in butcher shop or pay at the tent with credit.  Every weekend is here at the butcher shop.  We’re writing this review in coffee shop next door.

 DK got mustard on his hand and no hand sanitizer for him.

V. Value

The members were asked how much they would pay for the burger they ordered.  We would pay between $9 and $12 and on average $10.25 for the “double.” Since the double costs $9 we would say the pricing is

.

VI. The verdict

The scores for Burgerdaddy from the members were 3.7, 3.4, 4.2, 4.2, and 3.5.  Solid burger worth checking out if you’re in the area but I wouldn’t go TOO far out of my way to get it. Pink’s hotdogs are around the corner so if you’re friends are waiting in that long line for a hotdog, you can get a burger and meet them back in line and make everyone around you jealous.

Next burger crew meeting will be held January 11 at Electric Owl (coincidentally it’s around the corner from burgerdaddy).

Goldburger – Silverlake – November 9, 2019

Burger Crew meeting called to order on Saturday, November 9, 2019 @ 12:30pm.

Members in attendance: Angela, Trevor, Wayne, DK, and Innie
Mini member: Marty

I. Ordering

True to their pop-up origins, the menu items at Goldburger are short and sweet. They offer 3 types of double cheeseburgers (Goldburger, California Classic, and LA Special), a Kids Cheeseburger, and classic fries.  Chopped chilis are available on request.

Angela, Trev, Wayne and I opted for the flagship burger of the trio, the Goldburger (grilled onions, dill pickles, house-made garlic-mustard aioli) for $11.  DK went rogue and ordered the LA Special (topped with pastrami, dijonaise slaw) for $12.  DK and I requested chopped chilis added to our burgers.  Unfortunately, the California Classic (shredded lettuce, diced onions, dill pickles, house made classic sauce – $9) went unrepresented during this trip.  (Shredduce does not seem to be a selling point amongst the Burgr Crew collective.)  Marty the Kid had herself a Kids Cheeseburger (single patty) at $6.  Everyone had an order of classic fries.

Goldburger

Goldburger’s offerings also included bottled drinks: Various flavors of fancy bottled soda (Swell Soda) or Jarritos Mineral water for $2.50.  Wayne ordered a Pomegranate soda, and DK went with Lemon-Lime. 

II. The burgers

Smash burgers done properly are a beautiful thing.  These patties were very good, very seasoned, and beefy.  When compared to Burgers Never Say Die, these patties were not as caramelized, but still had a great sear.  Wayne said that Goldburger’s patty was not as paper thin as BNSD, and while Goldburger could probably get away with one patty, 2 was much better.  Trev and Angela thought the one patty in the Kids Cheeseburger still gave a good ratio of meat to bun, and felt that it might have been thicker than the ones served in the Doubles.

The grilled onions in the Goldburgers were super thinly sliced, caramelized, but not overcooked to be mushy.  They still had some nice bite and was a nice addition to the flavor and texture of the overall burger.  The pickles were also a hit with everyone.  Angela liked the cut of them; sometimes pickles are cut so thin that they don’t give a satisfying crunch.  Wasted pickle potential is a real problem in the burger community.  With the melty cheese and soft buns, everyone liked the texture of each bite.  To quote Wayne, “There was a nice amount of goo everywhere.”   

The pastrami in DK’s LA Special was very thinly sliced and chewy, and not crispy around the edges.  DK likened them to Tommy’s or The Hat’s pastramis.  He noted that there was an “appropriate” portion of pastrami topping that didn’t overwhelm the flavor of the burger.  Past burger ventures have yielded a lot of pastrami mountains, which are great for wow factor, but not great for a lot of other reasons. (How the heck do you bite into a literal sphere of food?)  The slaw in his burger didn’t really stand out, but blended well with the chopped chilis and had a nice crunch.

DK thought he detected a bit of a metallic note in his burger, which he theorized may have come from the pastrami.  The jury is still out on this one, since he also thought his Lemon Lime soda was weirdly bitter and off-putting.  The rest of burger crew offered a couple theories: perhaps his palate was having an off day, or his schmancy soda royally screwed him over and tinged everything with a bitter taste.

III. The fries/sides

The fries were very good- salted well, and crispy when hot and fresh.  The crispy quality did drop off significantly as the meal finished (unlike the Win-dow’s fries, which I can vouch survives a 10 minute car ride impressively well).    

IV. Miscellaneous

Holy ground beef, it was a HOT day.  The lineup to order didn’t have much relief from the sun, so we made some semi-pathetic attempts to shield ourselves by lining up in the shadow of a utility pole. 

The situation wasn’t made much more comfortable by the slow-moving line.  We estimated that it took about 15 minutes to reach the front of the line with about 4 people ahead of us.

The seating is in a covered, but open area (so no A/C).  Goldburgers does seem to be pretty popular, so seating was tight and in high demand.  Same goes for the parking area adjacent to the restaurant – if you want to grab a spot, you’re going to need either luck or patience. 

A bathroom is available on site, but is not the cleanest.

Goldburger is temporarily residing in the patio section of the former Hache burger restaurant, which is going through some redevelopment.  Interestingly, Hache was a previous Burger Crew destination, and was another of DK’s picks almost exactly 5 years ago in November of 2014.  Coincidence or conspiracy?

Also, if you happen to go to this establishment on another of LA’s beautiful 90+ degree days, a Baskin Robbins is 0.2 miles away and is a pretty decent place to eat ice cream and discuss your burgers.

V. Value

The members were asked how much they would pay for the burger they ordered.  They ranged from $7 to $10.50, so they were priced higher than what we would have expected.

VI. The verdict

The scores for Goldburger from the members were 4.5, 3.8, 3.3, 4.2, and 4.2.  Great pick, DK!

Next burger crew meeting will be held December 15th at Burgerdaddy (Innie’s pick)

Burger Crew Home Edition

We typically go out to find awesome burgers, but we decided that we knew enough to craft our own awesome burgers! We’ve had a home edition in the past where we put together a ramen burger and a cronut burger at the height of the craze (yeah, it was a long time ago), but we haven’t done it since.

We decided to make this one a bit of a competition. Each member brought stuff to create 4 burgers so each of us would get to taste half of each. We rated them from 1 to 5 based on toppings and composition of the burgers. We had secret ballots and randomly assigned the order in which the burgers would be made.

First up, was Angela (uh, me). My burger was called the “Peanut Butter Jelly Time” and was inspired by my love of peanut butter burgers with the gripe that there never is enough peanut butter. My burger started with a Hawaiian style bun, had a half pound patty (beautifully cooked by Trev), a good helping of Skippy honey peanut butter, Knott’s boysenberry preserves, a dash of Sriracha, and some Ruffles potato chips.

Average rating of 3.68 out of 5

Next up was Innie’s burger. She named her burger “Eat your Kimchi!” It was like a Korean party in our mouths! There was a lot of stuff on it and you’ll need to ask Innie what exactly was on it. It was quite involved. There was some sauce, some pickles, some kimchi, and some basting of bacon going on. It was spicy, but not “oh my God, I’m going to die” spicy.

[Ninja edit by Innie: The burger had a house sauce (mayo, gochujang, sesame oil, soy sauce, sriracha, and minced kimchi), bacon basted with a sriracha/sesame/honey mix, american cheese, sauteed kimchi, a nicely medium-rare beef patty (Thanks, Trev!) and marinated cucumber kimchi on Wonderbread buns.

Eat all the kimchi!! ]

Innie, basting her bacon
Average rating of 4.55 out of 5

Next was DK’s burger! He named his “I’m scared to bring my burger to the party”. Second time he flaked on us for home edition! Hope you had a good sleep, man. Sucks about work!

Rated 0 out of 5

Next up was Trev. His burger was called “The HAMburger” (pretty much just to mess with me because I don’t like that word). His was on a Hawaiian style bun, had a beautifully cooked patty (yes, he cooked EVERYONE’S patties), peppered bacon (on the side, instead of a pickle spear), American cheese, crispy cheddar cheese crumbles, and Korean seasoned cucumbers, ketchup and mustard. It was a bit of a salt bomb compared to the other burgers thus far.

Assembling
Average rating of 3.6 out of 5

The next burger was from Wayne. He called his the Gorilla Mall and he was basically plagiarizing Grill ’em all’s Dee Snider (which is an excellent burger to plagiarize). He was on a brioche bun with an amazingly cooked burger patty (thanks again, Trev). He had crunchy peanut butter, strawberry jam, chewy bacon, and a healthy helping of Sriracha. Though Wayne and I had similar concepts, they certainly ended up different from one another. He had less peanut butter (which Sumana liked since she doesn’t like peanut butter). He also had the bacon to my potato chips.

Look at that chewy bacon
Average rating of 3.88 out of 5

Last, but certainly not least was our super special member from out of town, Sumana!!! Her burger was called “The Killer” and was very involved! She used the Hawaiian style buns, a Trev cooked patty, boxed mac and cheese mixed with bacon, Sriracha ketchup, and pan fried breaded pickles (which she breaded herself!). She clearly put a lot of effort into this one! It was tough because she was chosen to go last, and she had a plane to catch! So we were in a bit of a rush to prep and eat hers.

Look at those fried pickles!
Average rating of 3.93 out of 5

Overall, it was a super fun, super stuffed day. This year’s Burger Crew Home Edition Champion is Innie! Congratulations to her! Looking forward to next year’s set of burgers. We definitely need to make this an all day thing with sweat pants as our uniforms =)

Dave’s Burgers – Long Beach – October 5, 2019

Burger Crew meeting called to order on Saturday, October 5, 2019 @ 12:30pm.

Members in attendance: Angela, Trevor, Wayne, Innie, and DK
Slider member: Marty
Guest: Chris

I. Ordering
The menu is all business: a list of 17 or so burgers and sandwiches (ingredients not listed) in descending order of carnal attractiveness, and a pair of prices–one for the burger only and another for the combo. You want to know what the fork is inside a “jumbo cubby”? You’ve come to the right place.

Trev, Angela, and Wayne ordered the main attraction, the Jumbo Cubby, which includes lettuce, grilled onions, pickles, tomato, house sauce, beef patty, a slice of cheese, two hot dogs cut length-wise, and another slice of cheese, all between sesame buns.

I ordered the Regular Cubby. Same ingredients as above but with a slimmer patty.

Innie ordered the Double Cheeseburger (double patty, double cheese) which also had the same ingredients minus the hot dogs.

II. The burgers
These are old-school grease burgers. I mean, they’re served out of a how-do-two-people-fit-into-that-little-thing of a shack in the parking lot of a gas station… look for your glamour elsewhere!

The burgers are served on toasted sesame buns, a nice call back to a time when the burger world didn’t revolve around the brioche. Unfortunately the bottom bun had to fight its own Normandy against an onslaught of sauce and wet lettuce (more on that later…) and it wasn’t pretty. To be fair, most buns would not have fared well against all that moisture.

The patty had an average sear and lacked seasoning. It became clear mid-burger that these patties were the preformed/frozen variety—i.e. weak in terms of beefiness and the texture was dense. Most of the meaty flavor came from the hot dog, naturally. Innie thought her double cheeseburger had a good balance of toppings to meat but the beef would have been lost had it not been for the second patty.

Speaking of toppings! Thoughts from the table: the tomato was fresh and juicy, pickles added the right amount of acid, but the freaking aforementioned lettuce was pulled straight out of an ice bath and gave the burger a slip-and-slide quality (which nobody has ever asked for)!

Another comment from Trev that made me laugh but I have not confirmed: they seasoned the vegetables instead of the patty! That is a high-level technique; most cooks don’t have the courage to pull that move off in front of customers.

III. The fries/sides
The combo comes with a side of fries and they were sadly not a hit. They were on the dry side, the seasoning too light, the potatoes stale. The only member who liked the fries was Trev, and in his defense, he is the resident fry connoisseur and master of the double fry. He described them as “juuuust right” with the straightest of faces.

IV. Miscellaneous
Parking is tough with only six spots, not to mention that it’s shared with a gas station so a spot may be taken by someone there for completely different reasons than getting a burger. If you’re worried about smelling gas fumes, it’s airy and clean enough that we didn’t smell any (to Angela’s disappointment). Seating is outdoors only, the ladies crank these burgers out quick (would be neat to see if you could finish a burger while filling up the tank), and it’s cash only.

V. Value
The members were asked how much they would pay for the burger they ordered. They ranged from $6.50-$8.00 so they were about or even cheaper than what we would have paid. Only in Long Beach!

VI. The verdict
The nostalgia and novelty factors are there, but the love for burgers takes a back seat to the love of profit. Cheap ingredients translates to a cheap burger, in more than one way. The scores were 2.3, 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1. Best of luck, Dave’s Burgers!

The next Burger Crew meeting will be held Nov 9 @ Goldburger (DK’s pick).

Nexx Burger – Downey – September 14, 2019

Members in attendance: Angela d., Trevor Y., Wayne T., Dennis K., and Innie C.

Slider member: Marty d.Y.

Guests: Adrian J. and Lulu T.

So Trev and I were totally late to this meeting. Sorry guys!

I. Ordering

Trev and I, Innie and Wayne all got the 1/3 lb hamburger ($6.50). We all added American cheese (75 cents) and bacon ($1.75), plus Wayne also added avocado ($1.50).

Marty had a little burger with everything (no cheese, which is the default) for $4.25.

Innie ordered onion rings ($3.75) and Trev and I made it a combo for $3.95 (that comes with fries and a drink).

DK ordered a double with cheese (which he thinks was $11, thanks DK for the precision).

Adj and lulu split a double with cheese and sweet potato fries.

II. The Burgers

The burgers are touted to be made from the best ingredients. If you’re interested, here is their “story”

These were definitely pretty burgers. In fact, we saw people order a bunch of burgers and spend like half a hour taking photos of them. No sign of eating them though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We definitely like to eat our burgers!

So there was no char on Innie’s or Wayne’s burgers, but the rest of us had char on ours. The burgers came with onion, lettuce, and “super” sauce. The onion was like a giant cross section of onion, which I often don’t like since it’s too onion-y. However, these were nice and mild and very enjoyable on the burger. I suspect they soak them in water to mellow them out a bit. The super sauce was basically a thousand island sauce. All the ingredients tasted really fresh. My personal preference is to have pickles on my burgers, but this one didn’t have any. I actually didn’t miss them. The bun was nice, toasted, a little sweet, and held up to the meat and toppings.

The burgers were salty. I like places that aren’t afraid of salt, but this burger was a bit over the top. I suspect that it was the bacon plus the cheese that oversalted our burger. That was totally our bad and I would come back again to try their 1/3 burger without any add-ons. That being said, all the add-ons were really great quality. The bacon was nice and crispy. The avocado was a good ripeness (not too mushy, but not too hard . . . that’s what Wayne said!). The cheese was nice and gooey.

The overall construction of the burgers was good. The ratio of all things together was good. There was a really nice mouth feel to the burger. There was a lot of texture in it with all the toppings. DK reported that the double is too much meat. I know my motto is “always double”, but in this case try it the way they designed it. It’s clear that the people putting the menu together put some thought into it.

III. The Fries/Sides

The onion were rings very good and crispy, and they stayed with the breading. The fries seemed like they were battered. They were really crispy and tasty with just the right amount of salt. These, amazingly, stayed crispy even when they got cold. Not sure who sold their soul to the devil for that power, but I appreciate it!

IV. Miscellaneous

You order at the counter and all the workers are very friendly. There is a good amount of indoor and outdoor seating, and they have high chairs (win!). There is a TV inside to keep you entertained. They have beer on tap, and the selection is ooookay: 3 craft, 3 mainstream. They carry Stubborn soda, which is not my jam but others may like it. They also have a drive thru if you don’t want to eat there. They are located in a little strip mall so there’s lots of parking.

V.  Value

I ask the members how much they would pay for the burger they ate. We would pay anywhere between $9.75 to $12.50 for these burgers, which means they’re pretty well priced!

VI. The Verdict

Like I have said, I think the chefs know what they’re doing. I would come back and try the basic 1/3 burger. I suspect it will be better than what we ate that day. The ratings: 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.7, 4.0. There’s certainly potential for growth here.

Next burger crew meeting: October 5, 2019, 12:30pm

Location: Dave’s burgers, Long Beach, CA

Pickled Monk – Fullerton – 8/17/19

Burger Crew meeting called to order on Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 12pm.

Members in attendance: Angela d., Trevor Y., Dennis K., Innie C., and myself (Wayne T.)

1. Ordering

Wayne: Monk Burger with Skinny’s Garlic Fries

Trangela: Monk Burger with Portobello Fries (and Pulled Pork Sliders for Marty)

DK: Double Burger with pickled jalapenos and bacon, and Skinny’s Garlic Fries

Innie: Double Burger with bacon, and Skinny’s Garlic Fries

2. The burgers

Monk Burger: The bleu cheese in the burger was the star of the show for Angela. The patty was neither beefy enough nor seasoned enough, although it was surprisingly juicy despite being overcooked (I asked for medium rare and it came out medium). The flavor of everything else in the burger besides the patty was very good but the burger was just lacking in beefiness. There was also no acid the complement everything else in the burger, especially since the burger was a bit sweet. The buns did hold up surprisingly well considering all of the wet ingredients.

Double Burger: DK didn’t get a sense that there was double cheese in his burger, but he did feel like the burger was made better by the addition of jalapenos, and he enjoyed the texture of his burger, with a nice crunch from the lettuce and pickles. Innie felt that the presence of cheese helped with the patty’s lack of seasoning, but she did find the buns to be odd since the top bun was cut much larger than the bottom bun.

3. The sides

Skinny’s Garlic Fries: These fries were pretty amazing. They were thinner than most shoestrings, and they stayed crispy for the entire meal. Definitely order the fries if you come here.

Portobello fries: These were also a hit with everyone. Lots of mushroom flavor, and the batter provided great texture. The included sauce was a good complement as well.

Pulled pork sliders: Angela really liked them, although she said that they had some kind of spongy balls inside of them that tasted good but had an off-putting texture. Marty didn’t seem to have any complaints about them.

4. Miscellaneous

There’s a parking lot next to the restaurant but it was very full, so you might need to find metered street parking. The restaurant had self-serve beef on tap with beer cards, so you could try as much or as little of each beer as you wanted as long as you paid for it. According to the beer snobs, the selection was just ok. Seating was very plentiful on a Saturday afternoon.

5. Value

The burgers were ok as far as value goes, with the range between $10.50 and $12 for the group.

6. Ratings

Most of our ratings for this places were pretty average, ranging between 2.6 and 3.5. The sides were the real star of the show here, although if they could improve their patties, it would go a long way towards turning them into very solid burgers.

Our next stop: Nexx Burger in Downey on Sept 14.

Burgers Never Say Die

Hot summer day in Los Angeles – 7/27

Members in attendance: Trevor Y., Dennis K., Angela D., Wayne T.,

Members standing in poop water and couldn’t attend: Innie C.

I. Ordering

The menu has one burger listed as the “Regular Burger” for $7.25

double patty

cheese

pickles

ketchup

mustard

onions

II. The Burgers

The patties were super smashed to the point where the edges were nice and crispy. The patties were thin with an ultra nice sear (thanks to the smash and presumably hot griddle). It was cooked well done but still MOIST.

In other words, it was simply amazing. The burger buns were super soft and fluffy. The cheese was super melty. The crew had inconsistent mustard experience. Some felt it was too much however I loved it and wished more places put mustard on the burger. They were also not shy to put a bunch of pickles. The acidity really helps break though the richness of the meat and cheese to achieve perfect balance. Thanos would be proud. (I just watched Endgame last night).

The first bite reaction from the crew was heaven. The beefy-ness of the burger came through very nicely. The balance overall was perfect. Just the right amount of cheese and condiments (except someONE didn’t appreciate the mustard) and DK could use more cheese.

III. The Fries/Sides

Fries were double fried, golden, and a pretty generous amount. Nicely salted

Ice cream was soft serve and very very creamy especially on the hot day it really hit the spot. Great to pair with the fries for those that like the sweet and savory combo. If you don’t want your ice cream right away they will give you a little ticket to bring back later and redeem for one when you’re ready.

IV. Miscellaneious

Outdoor seating only so beware of flies

Very friendly service and the kitchen looked very clean.

Both fountain and bottle soda available

Surprisingly easy parking

no public bathroom

V. Value/Rating

On average we would pay $7.50 for the regular burger. Considering it’s $7.25 it’s priced perfectly. As for rating out of 5, we had a low score 4.2 and a high score of 4.9. The average was 4.6. Definitely a crowd pleaser.

VI Verdict

To us this is basically a mcdonald’s play. The burger is classic with mustard, ketchup, onions (like a mcdonald’s cheeseburger). The ice cream is soft serve vanilla (like macdonald’s), and the fries are shoe string style (again.. like mcdonalds). The only thing not mcdonald’s about it is the incredible quality of all the ingredients used and the execution was spot on. They turned it up to 11 and we LOVE it. I love it 3000.

Next meeting: 8/17 Pickled Monk in Fullerton

The Window at American Beauty

Burger crew meeting called to order on Saturday, May 25, 2019

Members in attendance: Angela, Trev, Innie, Wayne, DK

Guests: Christian Y., Marty

I. Ordering 

We all ordered a Double Cheeseburger ($5.95) with French fries ($3.75).  Trevor and Angela also opted to order another single Cheeseburger ($3.95) after they finished sharing their Double. (Spoiler alert: These burgers were that good.)  The burgers are advertised on the menu as hand formed and flat top grilled with onions, served with American cheese, pickles, and house sauce.

II. The burgers

Double Cheeseburger

This one was a winner!  The burgers were simple, but well-executed, and they were thoroughly enjoyed all around by the whole group.

The patties were made in the smashburger style, with a great sear and lots of browning, but still very juicy.  DK even saw bits of pink in his burger.  When eaten by itself, the patties had lots of umami and meaty flavor.  All our burgers came out perfectly seared and juicy, so A+ for the Window’s consistency game.

The American cheese was melty and congealed into the crevices of the patties, and didn’t overpower the flavor of the meat.  The crew agreed that the standard American cheese was a great choice, for both flavor and gooey texture.

The onions were very thinly sliced and caramelized, but still had enough bite to not be mushy.  Wayne said that it reminded him of an Oklahoma style cheeseburger, but without the onions smashed into the patty.  The pickles were not the standard bread and butter pickle.  When eaten solo, they tasted homemade, and just lightly pickled.  The house sauce seemed like a chunkier thousand island.  The bun was sweet and soft like a Hawaiian bread, and maybe steamed with a cover on the grill.  At first glance, we suspected that there was too much bread, but because the bun was so soft, it gave easily and mushed together with the other ingredients very nicely with each bite.

Trev and Angela actually preferred the single over the double cheeseburger, citing that the bun to meat ratio with the single was better.

III. The Fries/Sides

The fries at the Window were amazing! Definitely one of the best fries I’ve had since joining the crew. One of my personal pet peeves at burger-centric joints is when the fries taste like an afterthought, or even worse, when they don’t offer fries at all.  When I walk into a burger place and see only bags of chips offered as a side, my disappointment is immeasurable.  

These fries had a nice crispy rind on the outside and were soft and airy on the inside.  Double fried to golden brown and well seasoned with flake salt.  Trev thought that they were Yukon gold potatoes from the texture and taste. 

IV. Miscellaneous 

True to it’s name, this establishment is just an order and pickup window.  Only outdoor seating is available in the form of stackable plastic stools.  A few of the crew members said that the seating reminded them of their experiences with street vendors in Southeast Asia.  There was limited shade, so come early if you want to grab a comfortable spot to munch on your meal.  They also offer their meals to go.

The neighborhood is very typically Venice, which may be charming to some, but verging on a bit too granola for others.  Let’s just say that you shouldn’t be surprised when the pickup window calls out orders for people named Starchild, Moon, and (my personal favorite) Matrix.  Also keeping true to the neighborhood demographic, they offer a beyond burger option, a grain bowl, and kale salad on their menu.

Parking is limited, and the small lot is shared with the scattered outdoor seating.

V. Value

The members were asked how much they would pay for the burger they ordered.  They ranged from $7.50 to $8, which made this a great value (especially when considering the usual price range of food options in the Venice area).

VI. The verdict

This place earned some high scores all around.  The crew rated it 4.2, 4.9, 4.6, 4.3, and 4.3.  Excellent choice by DK!

Next burger crew meeting will be held July 28th, 2019 at Burgers Never Say Die.

WesBurger ‘n’ More – San Francisco – 6/30/19

The final stop for Burger Crew does San Francisco!

Burger Crew meeting called to order on Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 9am.

Members in attendance: Angela d., Sumana S., Trevor Y., Dennis K., Innie C., and myself (Wayne T.)

I. Ordering

Wayne: PB&J Burger with bacon, Nashville hot chicken sandwich (split with Sumana)
Sumana: PB&J Burger with bacon, The Okie Burger, The Hot Wes Burger
Trangela: PB&J Burger with bacon, breakfast tacos, coffee
Dennis: PB&J Burger with bacon, cheesy tots
Innie: The Hot Wes Burger, Nashville hot chicken sandwich

II. The burgers

The burgers were a huge hit, and for many of us, it was the highlight (and savior) of a trip filled with mediocre and overpriced burgers. Wes spoke to us personally and told us that the burgers were made entirely of coarse ground brisket and were hand-smashed. They were very beefy, nicely seasoned, and had a great sear while staying juicy. Everybody who had the PB&J burger felt that it went very well with the rest of the burger; Angela even wanted more PB and less cheese. The onion strings were a huge hit in the burger, with the right amount of chew and crispiness, and the same could be said about the bacon.

Those that ordered the Hot Wes enjoyed them. They didn’t have a spicy kick but that wasn’t necessarily a bad thing if you were looking for spicy flavor rather than heat. The queso and onion strings made for a great texture combination.

The Okie Burger brought Sumana back to Texas, reminding her of hometown favorite Whataburger, with mustard grilled patties and pickles with great flavor. She said that Southerners living in the bay area should definitely try it out if they want a slice of home.

III. The sides

The cheesy tots were awesome. The tots themselves were nicely fried, very crispy and salted. The cheese itself was very creamy and there was a generous amount of it.

Trevor really liked the breakfast tacos, saying that they tasted like how he wished the breakfast tacos in Austin tasted. He also really liked his coffee. Great flavor, and it came in a French press.

The Nashville hot chicken sandwiches were very good. The chicken was crispy and juicy, and the heat level was what some of us called “approachable,” meaning that you’d definitely know that it was there but that it shouldn’t be overwhelming to anyone who wanted to give it a try. The breading stayed crispy for a long time, and it was so crisp that Innie described it like having a crispy shell of breading.

IV. Miscellaneous

The restaurant feels like an old school diner, with a jukebox playing, bottle cap counter top, and burger paraphernalia everywhere, including an awesome neon burger sign. The tables had purse hooks under them, which is always a plus for everyone carrying a bag, and they have restrooms on site (which was more rare than we would’ve expected this trip).

Wes is a super cool guy, and despite not normally having the full burger menu available for breakfast, he told us that we could order any of the burgers once he realized how serious we were about trying them. His restaurant motto (“burgers are fun”) fits in very well with Burger Crew’s way of life.

V. Value

Everyone thought that the burger pricing was pretty spot-on, with the amounts that we would’ve paid for our burgers ranging between $12-$12.50.

VI. Rating

The burgers were almost universally praised. Out of a 5.0 point rating scale, our ratings were 3.2, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2, 4.2, and 4.4, easily the highest scores of the entire trip.

This concludes Burger Crew does San Francisco! Our next stop: Burgers Never Say Die in Los Feliz on July 27.

Comstock Saloon – San Francisco – 6/29/19

Burger crew meeting called to order on Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 8:30pm.

Members in attendance: Angela d., Sumana S., Trevor Y. (me), Wayne T., Dennis K., and Innie C.

Guests: Isabel G., Christian Y., Todd W., Cindy W.

I. Ordering

There was only one burger on the menu: ($16) The Comstock Burger – secret sauce, fontiamerican, pickle, shallot, malt vinegar chips. You can have extra add-ons $5 Double (3/4lb) + $3 Seared Pork Belly + $3 Head to Tail Pork Jus

II. The burger

I admit I had to look up “Comstock” in the dictionary and it has something to do with a reformist (as in person who makes changes to something in order to make it better). I hope that means this burger will get better because it has a lot of areas to improve. Based on the collective feedback, the burger was deemed very meaty with a good sear with lots of juices. That would imply that it’s a good burger, HOWEVER we found that even though it looked to be cooked properly the meat was found to be CHEWY to the point one burger felt like it had tendons in it. The pickles were deemed too thin and ranged from noticeable to the only saving grace of the burger. Along with the chewiness came crunchiness from the chips…. sometimes. Some of the chips got soggy which gave a very inconsistent bite to bite experience. Some bites had a good crunch and others led to a messy plate since everything fell out. Two burgers were ordered as doubles and had the pork belly option. The consensus was one patty is enough and don’t bother with the pork belly. It didn’t taste like much and was more ham-like than the eye-rolling pork belly we come to expect.

Bottom line, the burger needs to be less chewy and more flavorful. The burger feels like it’s trying to hard. I really really wanted to like this burger but it just didn’t live up to any hype.

Comstock Burger with pork belly. (Michter’s Sazerzc on the left and Dickel Sazerac on the right)

III. The Sides and Drinks

What lacked in the burger was probably made up in the delicious sides and drinks. As a saloon they make some top notch cocktails. We had sazeracs made with Dickel, Rittenhouse, and Michters and all were excellent! It’s pretty rare to find a bar that can make a decent sazerac. I also sampled the manhattan which was also excellent. And if rye whisky isn’t you’re thing, all the other cocktails ordered were yummy as well.

ORDER the TATER TOTS and WHITE CHEDDAR CHEXX. You will not disappointed if you enjoy fried potatoes and or cheese.

IV. Miscellaneous 

Live Jazz music played upstairs. It was pretty loud so it made having conversations somewhat challenging. They played typical 40s jazz that I would expect to hear at a jazz concert. However I don’t think that played well in this environment. I would have preferred either a more mellow background or upbeat big band. The jazz played is jazz to be experienced actively. I wasn’t there to listen to jazz. I was there to hangout with friends and eat delicious burgers. At one point in the night someone from the Jazz band came downstair asking for tips so have your small bills ready.

The bar itself felt pretty intimate with the small nook type spaces and darker settings. It’s definitely not ideal for large groups and the fact they were able to fit 10 of us in the restaurant was very impressive.

V. Value

The members would pay between $8 and $10.50 so the $16 price tag on the burger before add-ons makes this a low value burger.

VI. The verdict

On a scale from 1-5 the burger averaged 2.8 with a high of 3.3 and a low of 1.8. Come for the drinks and sides and perhaps stay for the company but don’t get the burger.

Next Burger Crew stop: Wes Burger ‘N’ More